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Livingston Family Association

1283 Logan Avenue
Salt Lake City, Utah 84105




Bulletin #21

January 1980

1980 REUNION:

BRING THE WHOLE FAMILY....SALT LAKE CITY...SATURDAY...AUG. 9th...LIVINGSTON BOOK 1st DISTRIBUTION...

The Reunion will be held on Saturday, August 9, 1980, in Salt Lake City. It will begin at 9:00 AM commencing with a breakfast served by the ORGANIZATION and then a business meeting and historical presentation for the adults, and games and activities for the children.

The Chairman of the 1980 Reunion is Wanda Bond, 118 East 2750 South, Bountiful, 84010, phone (801) 292-0563. If there is some event that would affect most of those who will attend that would require changing the date, please notify the chairman immediately. The only exceptions would possibly be a cancellation of August the 9th on the calendar, so please set aside August 9th and plan on attending. The LIVINGSTON BOOK is being prepared for targeted distribution at this reunion, thus the location of Salt Lake City where it is being printed.

In our Spring newsletter a detailed schedule of activities and a map showing the exact location will be distributed.

LIVINGSTON BOOK - Ready for Publication

We are at a point where we are within inches of going to press for our long sought after LIVINGSTON book. Ron Livingston, 379 W. 700 So., Orem, Ut 84057, phone 225-3573, chairman of the publication committee has set Feb 20th 1980 as the cut-off date for all family group information, pedigree charts, histories and photos. If you have any updating to do on your information get it to him by then.

From Feb 20th to March 15th, Ron will integrate the family group information into the rough draft of the book and on March 15th give the rough draft to Denney Pugmire who will then upgrade the pedigree charts and renumber the entire book. From March 1st to March 31st Ron will complete the editing of teh histories. From March 1st to March 31st, Denney will work wit the publisher, Deseret Press, and prepare the photos which are to be included in the book. On April 1st Denney will take the "final" rough draft to the publisher for typesetting, proofing, printing and binding. As has been the case in the past, and will continue right through the printing, numerous others are unselfishly assisting with the miriads of publication activities. None of this would be possible without all of their help.

From a guess standpoint (since the book has not been typeset), we are anticipating a volume of 500 pages, 8 1/2 x 11 size, approx 200 photos, and a cost of more or less $20.00. If the book is larger or smaller it would of course cost proportionately more or less.

Please tell Enid Cox (either by phone or letter) 1283 Logan Ave, SLC Utah 84105, phone (801) 484-2678 HOW MANY BOOKS YOU PLAN ON PURCHAINSG FOR YOUR FAMILIES. WE NEED TO KNOW THIS BY THE FEBRUARY 20th cut-fof deadline so we can firm up with the publisher how many to publish. None of us are rich enough to have a couple of hundred extra books sitting around in our basements, so we need to order what we can sell. What a memorable gift for Christmas this would make for children and grandchildren.

SEND FAMILY GROUP INFO AND HISTORIES to Ron.
SEND PHOTOS AND BOOK ORDERS to Enid

We have no photos to speak of from the CHARLES LIVINGSTON family. We can include three generations down from Archibald (b. 1702). This is your last chance. We really want to be as complete as possible. Please dig into your albums, drawers and boxes.

RESEARCH REPORT

Ariel Crowley, whose indefatigable efforts continue to amaze those half his age has indicated that through correspondence with William Livingstone of Scotland in Dunfermline, certain voluminous records of the Henderson family and its operations in the Fordell, Fife area have been found. This was the family which owned the major coal and iron works in Fife at the time when Archibald Livingston (b. 1702) was there and raised his family. William has enlisted the aid of a good friend in Dunfermline and the two of them are plowing through the mass of data, in hope of finding records of the families involved in the mining operation. It seems probable that since our families were bound to the Hendersons in a sort of industrial slavery, that some documents pertaining to the Livingstons will be found. Hopefully an identification of Archibald's father may be ascertained.

1980 SCOTTISH ACTIVITIES

There are two outstanding Scottish Activities held in the Salt Lake area that you might watch for and plan on attending. Kay Livingston is the Livingston Organization representative to the Utah Scottish Association and keeps us informed of their activities. In June the Utah Highland Games are held with a varied group of activities. These activities include such things as individual dance competition, individual piping competition, caber toss, a parade, massed bands, pipe band competition, quartet competition, open dance competition and films for the kiddies. There is a small charge for individuals. Baked goods and displays and exhibits are presented as well as inexpensive concessions of hot cakes, pizza, hot dogs, etc. during the activities. Plan on attending with the whole family.

During the winter a Scottish Ball is held. Watch for these two gala events.

PURPOSE OF THE LIVINGSTON FAMILY ORGANIZATION

The principal purpose for the organization is to collect from the far-flung descendants in one central location histories, photos, journals, etc., and make them available to all. This is accomplished through the publication of the Livingston Book.

PURPOSE OF YOUR OWN FAMILY ORGANIZATION

The broad purposes of your own family organization (whether formal or informal) are to promote a feeling of closeness and belonging among the living brothers, sisters, parents, aunts and uncles and cousins, and to promote a feeling of heritage and intimacy with those who have passed on. In order to accomplish this, you might consider the following ideas:

  1. Keep your active family organization small enough for intimacy and closeness. Generally the organization would evolve around a parent or a grandparent couple's descendants. Thus, each succeeding generation, the unit would dissolve and several new organizations would come into existence that are one step further down the line.
    1. Hold reunions, either yearly, every two years, or maybe every three years. Not too often that travel becomes a burden, but often enough that people are not strangers when they meet together.
    2. Hold periodic special events, such as Christmas parties, New Years eve parties, special evening meeting on the birthday of the parent ancestor, etc.
    3. Publish Newsletters peridically. Perhaps several times a year. Include addresses, phone numbers, new births, marriages, deaths, current jobs and activities of cousins, aunts & uncles etc. Consider the cost of the newsletters so make them meaningful. Orient all publications to varied religious backgrounds of the receivers so as to not alienate non-majority segments.
    4. Keep close to cousins, but realize that any organization that orients itself towards 2nd cousins or more remote is probably doomed to eventual self-destruction because of the rigorous time demands on everyone in this generation. We must be practical. An individual might maintain close ties with 2nd and 3rd cousins, but an organization would not be able to interest all members to such activities.
  2. Personal journals and histories.
    1. Every individual will some day be the focal point of a future family organization. Three generations hence, your great great grandchildren will revere every scrap of information on you. Keep a daily journal or diary, or monthly write a resume, or yearly compile your activities.
      1. Tape your life history & let your kids transcribe it.
      2. Outline your life activities in sentence form, leave many spaces between lines, keep the outline out in plain sight for months and just continue to add to it as the thought occurs to you. Eventually you will have a formidable outline from which a rather complete history can be written.
      3. Certain events must be written down as soon as possible after the happening to capture the flavor of the event...terrible happenings, scary, deep depressions, and on the other end of the scale, spiritual events, extreme happiness, joy, fulfillment... Write them... save them in a quart jar so they can be included someday in the history.
  3. Develop histories, family groupings, photos, memorabilia on deceased ancestors and make it available to your cousins.

LIST OF BULLETINS AND INFORMATION INCLUDED THEREIN:

Over the years we have sent out a number of newsletters which have included histories and research information. We realize that some of you may not have received all of them. This is why we feel it important that you know what has been included in these bulletins. If you would like a copy of any that apply to you, just let us know - realizing that most of the information will be in the book.

List of Livingston Bulletins
Bltn #2Aug 1964Excerpt from "The Life of James C. Livingston" (1 pg)
Excerpt from "The Life of Charles Livingston" (1 pg)
Bltn #4July 1966Reports from Roberta Lindsay-Researcher Livingston, Muir, Simpson lines (4 pg)
The Social & Economic Background of Scotland (1 pg)
The Make-Up of a Scottish Town (1 pg)
Coal Mining in Scotland (1 pg)
Vol 1 No 1Spring 1973History: Christina Campbell Livingston (1 pg)
BulletinMay 1974Statement of Charles Campbell Livingston (3 pg)
 1974History: James Campbell Livingston (b. 1833) (2 pg)
BulletinNov 1974Statement by Lillias Livingston Quintana (1 pg)
Statement by LeFern Despain Johnson re: Birch Creek (2 pg)
Brief Synopsis of Life of Charles Livingston (2 pg)
The Livingstons of Livingston
BulletinMarch 1975Misc Scottish Research on Jean Bain line (2 pg)
BulletinJune 1975Additional letters & research info on Bain line (4 pg)
BulletinNov 1975History: Annie Elizabeth Muir Livingston (b. 1854) (5 pg)
BulletinFeb 1976Livingstoun Family from Ye Coaltown of Fordel by William B. Livingstone - Scotland (6 pg)
Bltn #12Oct 1976History: Jane Harrocks Livingston (b. 1841) (4 pg)
ReunionJul 1976Picture Group Sheets: Archibald - Helen Connor, Jean Bain; Archibald George - Hannah Adler
History: The Salt Lake Temple Quarry (3 pg)
Pictures: Home of James Campbell Livingston, James Campbell and three wives, Obituary of James Campbell
Bltn #15Feb 1977The Wooden Gun Rebellion (Charles - Archibald) (1 pg)
A Mountain of a Mill Hill - SL Herald - Charles (1 pg)
Bltn #16Feb 1978Pictures & Group Sheet: Family of Samuel Ruggels Aiken & Isabel Livingston
Notes on Livingston Family by Thomas B. Child (1 pg)
Bltn #17Jun 1978Picture Group Sheet: Wm. Livingston (b. 1848) & Lillias Dick(1 pg)
Bltn #18Jan 1979History: James & Charles Livingston: Slow of Speech but Faithful to the End by R. G. Watt (2 pg)
Picture: Cedar Cliff Sunday School - J.C. Livingston. about 1900
Bltn #19Feb 1979Descendants Pedigree from Archibald (b. 1702) down (30 pg)
Bltn #20May 1979History: William Dick Livingston (b. 1871) (1 pg)
History: Sam and John Aiken (1 pg)
History: Christina Livingston edited by Ron Livingston (2 pg)

MISSING PHOTOS

Archibald Livingston (b. 1808), his wife Helen Conners (b. 1811), ALSO any of their brothers or sisters, parents, aunts & uncles. Of the James Campbell Livingston Sr. (b. 1833) family, missing photos of Robert Widdison Livingston and his wife Lena Hettie Major; and one of the wives of Charles Campbell Livingston, namely Delta Cole.

The below family group photos will all come out in the book later this year, but if anyone wanted copies of any, they can be requested from Enid Cox, and will be mailed out at our cost of approximately 12¢ per photo. As you can se from the empty spaces, we are also missing certain photos on these two families. If anyone has photos, no matter how small or tattered, whether individual or group shots, please forward us whatever you might have and we will copy them and return them immediately.

[Note: The original newsletter contained two hand-drawn family groups sheet with photos]

JAMES CAMPBELL LIVINGSTON SR
THE SPY

James Campbell Livingston (b. 1833) was the son of Archibald Livingston and Helen Conners. The following story is related about him when he was at Fort Douglas, Salt Lake City, Utah during the time of Brigham Young. The story is recounted by his son, Charles Campbell Livingston.

When Fort Douglas had the army's guns pointed down into the valley, and we were expecting to be blown up, Brigham Young called a meeting of those that he could trust, and I believe I could name a lot of them. In this meeting, which was a secret meeting, he stated the purpose of the meeting, and said it was to pick out a man to be a spy against the government of the United States. We wanted to uphold the government and he wanted a man that he could trust, and who could get into Fort Douglas and get the secrets of the army and give him word of everything that came or went in the fort. We were expecting to be fired on. He said “If you are caught, it means the firing squad. I don't think the Lord will allow you to be caught if you will act in wisdom, and the right man volunteers.” And he went on to explain what he wanted to find out. He said “I know the man the Lord wants, and I want him to volunteer.” A number of men volunteered. Father was of a retiring nature. He had had an invitation to be there that night, and after some of the men volunteered, Brigham said that the right man had not volunteered, and he walked down to father and put his hand on father's shoulder and said “This is the man the Lord wants.” He said “Will you volunteer?” and father said “Gladly,” and said he thought there were many men better fit. Brigham said to him that if he knew of any man better fit he should say who it is. Brigham said “Can you undertake this willingly, Brother James?” and father said he was willing to give his life willingly if he could be of service to the presiding officers. So they took him up and gave him a wonderful blessing, and he was told no hair of his head would be harmed if he obeyed.

James went up through the sentries toward the canyon, and got in with some soldiers up there, and the next time he went up after a load of stone, he had a keg of whiskey on the running gears of his wagon, and he let it roll off. The soldiers had a great time when they got it. He was going after a load of rock, and the soldiers had given him a pass. He went back looking for the whiskey and the soldiers had found it and he got in with them, and found out that some of the men in the bunch were aids to the presiding officers, and he got one of the men to go to the city with him while they were all kind of fuzzy, and they abducted him, and father put on his uniform, and father went back and represented himself as this soldier as an aid to the general, and every message went through his hands. They kept the other man a while and he disappeared entirely. They gave him a sum of money and told him not to be seen in that part of the country. Father took his name, and his number, and his clothes, and went up into Fort Douglas and replaced that man for weeks. Just the slightest mistake of his would have meant his death, for he used to get the President word every night, and of course, being an aid he had the password, and he used to come through every night, and report to President Young every event. And the next morning he was back in place to answer roll call, and whether the Lord so organized it that they wouldn't recognize him or not, I don't know, but I think that was what happened.

Often father would bring several soldiers with him. [James] had disappeared, and it got noised around that mother was entertaining soldiers, and they even dismissed her from the presidency of the Relief Society, and they didn't know that Father was a spy in the army. When it got noised around that mother was entertaining soldiers they were about to excommunicate her from the church, until it got to the highest officers of the church, and they said “Lay off.” They were going to excommunicate her for un-Christianlike conduct.

Eventually the soldiers disappeared and father came back.

VERIFIED GROUP SHEETS

The responsibility of verified group sheets on various family group sheets is placed on each of your individual brother & sister family organizations. We as the Livingston Family Organization have accumulated many family group sheets in compiling the information for our book, but no effort has been made to verify that information. It is as good as the source (you). It would be a full-time, lifetime job for our Livingston organization to verify those thousands of family units, thus the responsibility to do that is up to each of your individual families. Each of your own parent and grand-parent organizations in concert with your cousins would verify and distribute your unique information to your unique families

As a large family organization, the only ancestor who is common to all readers of this newsletter is Archibald Livingston (b. 1808) - Helen Conners. Approximately 75% of this organizations members come through the first son of Archibald, who is James Campbell Livingston Sr. Therefore, the research arm (Denney Pugmire, chairman) of the Livingston organization will prepare verified group sheets on Father Archibald Livingston-Helen Conners, on son James Campbell Livingston & each of his 3 wives, and on all prior ancestors of Archibald (b. 1808). They will be provided upon request.

OFFICERS OF THE LIVINGSTON FAMILY ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE

Elected in 1977:
Margaret Livingston
Veron Thomander
Denney Pugmire

Elected in 1978:
Ron Watt
Kay Livingston
Byron Rasmussen

Elected in 1979:
Ron Livingston
Enid Cox
Wanda Bond

Please feel free to contact any of the above if you desire to attend the periodic meetings (usually 2 per year), or if you would like to work on any special projects, or if you envision anything the organization could do that would be helpful to the members.

Special committee heads:

  1. Livingston Book - Ron Livingston
  2. 1980 Reunion - Wanda Bond
  3. Periodic Newsletter - Enid Cox
  4. Scottish Assoc Representative - Kay Livingston
  5. Ancestor research from Archibald Livingston (b. 1808) children on back - Denney Pugmire with Ariel Crowley as special advisor
  6. Descendants research from Archibald Livingston (b. 1808) children forward - each of your own family organizations (bro-sister, parent, g-parent)

LIVINGSTON FAMILY ORGANIZATION

President - Denney Pugmire
Secretary - Kay Livingston
Treasurer - Enid Cox


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